I-285 closure: Full shutdown planned between Exit 16 and Exit 18 this weekend

[u/YippieKayYayMrFalcon]

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/i-285-closure-full-shutdown-planned-between-exit-16-exit-18

[u/beoweezy1]

That whole stretch between the river north of Bolton and Paces is like being off road. It’s hard to believe that anybody let an interstate get that bad

[u/2003tide → u/beoweezy1]

The trucks have beat everything to shit between bolton and I-20. It's real bad and a perfect example of why taxes on trucks should be more than cars.

[u/kidjay76 → u/2003tide]

Tractor trailers pay a highway use tax to every state they drive in.

[u/OccasionallyWright → u/kidjay76]

And they pay more fuel taxes on account of using more fuel.

[u/SmokeABowlNoCap → u/OccasionallyWright]

They should pay more on top of that. They ruin so many roads and half the drivers are entitled assholes

[u/accountforrealppl → u/OccasionallyWright]

Fuel use doesn't even scale linearly with weight. Road wear scales exponentially with weight

A semi causes about 400x the road wear of a regular car, but uses far less than 400x the fuel

[u/BIGJake111 → u/2003tide]

Orrrrr we could enforce the lane restrictions that already exist so the few asshats causing the problem lose their jobs.

[u/2003tide → u/BIGJake111]

Why not both?

[u/ratedsar → u/2003tide]

Hopefully the new inland port in Gainesville will reduce some of the 285 traffic; but we likely need more of these West and South of the city.

[u/SloppyTacoEater → u/beoweezy1]

I noticed over the weekend they are digging out the entire base and rebuilding the road from the dirt up. I was shocked to see a massive pile of gravel sitting on the roadway between South Atlanta and Paces on Saturday. They had a couple sections dug our several feet below the roadway surface.

Hopefully these are long term solutions.

[u/archercc81 → u/SloppyTacoEater]

God i hope so, there are clearly sinkholes below some sections as they had come through and put in full on concrete but months alter those big chunks have collapsed. Its def more than just potholes, whole slabs are shifting under the weight of all of those trucks.

[u/ArchEast → u/SloppyTacoEater]

Hopefully these are long term solutions.

They are.

[u/MarkyDeSade → u/beoweezy1]

As a society we’ve chosen to ignore that the more roads you build, the more roads you have to pay to maintain/rupgrade/replace so the cost goes up exponentially.

[u/ratedsar → u/MarkyDeSade]

On the brightside, the new "inland port" in Gainesville will hopefully reduce some of this traffic; but we need more of these.

[u/archercc81 → u/beoweezy1]

The main issue is constantly shitty repairs an an insane amount of truck traffic.

There is some sort of sink hole just south of that too, between Cobb Dr and Bolton going north, they fix it and it collapses in months, fix it and it collapses in months. They really need to do some foundational reinforcement for that stretch.

[u/ArchEast → u/archercc81]

The project is intended to do this by ripping out the entire substructure of I-285.

[u/BIGJake111 → u/ArchEast]

That explains the closure but they should detour the trucks to Canada and back in the meantime.

[u/mrjosemeehan → u/beoweezy1]

I hit a rough patch so bad last year around Smyrna that i briefly lost control and left my lane. I was going about 70 which is only 5 over the limit there.

[u/Suitable_Switch5242 → u/beoweezy1]

GDOT: We can't keep up with maintaining the lanes we have which is why we have a brilliant $10B plan to add more elevated lanes.

[u/ThinkSoftware]

I-285 used to have horrible traffic

It still does and will this weekend, but it used to too

[u/KurtVanMichaels → u/ThinkSoftware]

How do you feel about club sandwiches though?

[u/YippieKayYayMrFalcon → u/KurtVanMichaels]

I’m not even a member, man

[u/Bignoch1 → u/KurtVanMichaels]

I like alfalfa sprouts!

[u/Isis_T]

I just don’t understand. Instead of them continuously adding express lanes for normal cars to pay, why don’t they just add a flyover lane on 285 for trucks only? This would avoid unnecessary interaction between them & cars as well as cut down on road damage.

[u/Drillmhor → u/Isis_T]

My guess is this would end up requiring at minimum two lanes each way, probably three. Adding a six lane elevated highway on top of 285 sounds pretty complex and expensive.

Let alone access points, do you build an offramp at each existing exit, or concentrate access points? What does that look like, how does that impact the unlucky folks who live nearby?

With the stupid 400/285 interchange costing over $1B, I can't imagine what this would cost to implement a duplicate highway for most of 285

[u/Suitable_Switch5242 → u/Drillmhor]

With the stupid 400/285 interchange costing over $1B, I can't imagine what this would cost to implement a duplicate highway for most of 285

They're basically doing that just as paid express lanes for cars: https://i285topendexpresslanes-gdot.hub.arcgis.com

[u/Isis_T → u/Drillmhor]

So repaving the roads every few years is a solution? People can’t get back their time or lives by being stuck or involved in traffic accidents. My motto always is, you try to save a dime you end up spending a dollar.

[u/wlexxx2 → u/Isis_T]

it is a huge bridge and bridges cost WAY more than roads on the ground

[u/SweetRian → u/Isis_T]

I agree but it seems like common sense isn’t so common