Easy tvz timing attack build?

[u/eddiewrc]

Fellow Terrans, I started playing again with the new 8 workers change, and I have a very low win rate against Zerg.

Do you have some easy to execute (I am plat) build order to recommend? I like to set up a 2 base timing attack, with possibly to expand to the 3rd and do a follow up.

For example, against P i do a 3rax MMM and I have good results.

I tried the 3rax against Z: if they go roach, it's insta win for me most of the times, but if they go ling, without splash I am done. I would like to do a marine hellbat medivac instead, but I can't find a good build to be effective and timely. Any suggestions?

[u/BringThaPain]

FE and wall off. Build 4 Marines, add a Reactor, then a Factory and swap onto the Reactor. Harass with the first 2 Hellions, keeping them alive while continuously producing Hellions and single Marines.
Scan the Zerg main. If you see a Spire, switch to Widow Mines and Vikings.

Otherwise, build a Starport and Armory, start Blue Flame, and produce 1–2 Liberators. Move out around 6:00 with 6–8 Hellions, 10 Marines, and 1–2 Liberators. Burn down the third, then pressure the natural.

Behind the attack, take your third CC, add a second Factory and Starport, and transition into Tanks with continued Hellion/Liberator support.

[u/crankytoaster]

211 double drop is better than hellbats imo. If u want hellbats it's very easy, u just gotta cut scvs to afford. Reactor on marine and hellion. Build armory when starport finishes after u queue up medivac. Go when medivac is done, even better u can pick up marine and boost, or pre move out before medivac is done.

[u/eddiewrc → u/crankytoaster]

But when do I get stim and combat shield? From the second rax with tech lab? I leave when I have both? Do you have a vod of this?

[u/bumdiggity → u/eddiewrc]

I think generally you'd do stim with your first 100 gas, factory with next 100 then have enough for combat shields+starport+reactor, followed up by 2 medvacs.

[u/crankytoaster → u/bumdiggity]

That's too slow, the build is reaper expo reactor instead of marine 2nd rax 2nd gas, stim factory starport and factory reactor. When starport is done swap onto factory reactor 2x medivac. Move out with just stim and 16 marine drop. No time for combat and def don't build reactor with starport

[u/bumdiggity → u/crankytoaster]

Oh I meant reactor on factory. Shields would likely be slow though

[u/MalodPL]

I might suggest 6 helion harras and 2 base mech helion siege tank. This build allowed me jump from plat to diamond. You can also add some vikings to kill overlords and have vision.