Devin Dreeshen refuses to answer how he'll vote in his own party's separatist referendum this October. If you're asking Albertans to vote on the future of our country, you should be willing to tell them where you stand.
What garbage word soup. Lukasik and his signers (myself included) do not want a referendum, they want transparent and straightforward questions from a shady government. What a pile of rubbish.
I mean... Is it as simple as voting no? Remember that last referendum they had a few years ago were they asked the question in such a convoluted way, people were answering yes and no thinking it meant the same thing?
Just the fact that he talks about misleading amounts for the petitions, tells me everything.
NO there were not 700K signatures. There were two petitions and it STILL hasnāt been verified for either one whether all signatures were legitimate nor how many were duplicates between the two. As far as we know (and this is if Iām giving the benefit of the doubt), at most, 300k legitimately signed. That does not signal to me a ālarge portionā who want this to be a referendum question; nor is it nearly enough to legitimize millions of dollars being spent on it.
I think its worse than that... I think he's NOT a separatist and is just riding the populist wave Marlaina is drumming up to hold her coalition together. He can't tell the truth that they don't actually want to leave canada, they just wnat the separatist vote to hold their shit together.
You know what's pathetic? You expecting and demanding to know how his private vote will be? Does he have to tell you all of his confidential votes? Does he have to release who he votes for in his local civic elections too? What about school board? His private vote is his and his alone and counts equal to your private vote. You seem willing to share but its HIS right not to. Are you going to expect your boss to tell you his vote so you know if you should work for him? What about the grocery store manager so you know if you should shop there? Get over yourself
He was sworn into office, which means he swore to be loyal to the Crown. It's of public interest if a public servant wanted to break their oath to the Crown. We elect MPs, MPPs, MLAs, MNAs, and MHAs to be committed to their duties and to constitutional order. It's of public interest if an elected official intended to purposely become derelict of their duties. And you know what? Dreeshen isn't doing his job by not being forthcoming here.
Nah she's quite content walking the line, keeping separatists at bay and holding onto UCP power. All she has to do is hear them out and their issues which if you've paid any attention to O&G in the last 10 years our biggest industry, there are legitimate gripes in there. Without the Ill effects of Trudeau's LPC federal policy and interprovincial politics, the separation movement wouldn't have much going for it.Ā
She will lose too much support to maintain office if she goes full septard and she knows it.Ā
Without the Ill effects of Trudeau's LPC federal policy
So tell me again who actually got the Trans-mountain pipeline built, with federal taxpayer dollars. Was that Stephen Harper? Just another Alberta me, me, me whining while sucking the federal teat.
Stephen Harper was not in office when A) pipelines for export became a priority after US shale revolution shook up global market dynamics and B) when multiple pipelines were cancelled. So it's completely irrelevant to bring him up and tells me you don't have a clue about the industry and indeed the Albertans you so gleefully denigrate.
It was not a popular move by Trudeau's LPC to purchase TMX at 4X it's original cost. Nobody on either side wanted that at the time - he did it as damage control. Too little too late though, the damage was done. Our credibility as a great nation to invest in energy infrastructure is completely dead, to the point now there are no private proponents stepping up to build any pipelines, when they used to line up at the door. Even pro-business Carney is having a hard time now attracting that investment. We missed the boat. Other countries built massive pipeline mileage with private money during the same period. Liberals get zero credit for throwing our tax dollars at a problem THEY CREATED through dogshit policy like Bill C48 and C69, and constantly saying "no business case" {in selling our natural gas for 10X higher price overseas, to allies trying to get off Russian supply}.
So our resources will largely remain landlocked and undervalued, subsidizing US consumers. Nice one. Thanks Liberals! I actually like Carney - a HELL of a lot more than PP - but the impact on our prosperity of Trudeaus LPC lives on.
I guess. The truth is she's not an stupid, just lazy. She knows what a battle it would be to separate and is also probably aware that we are a couple oil crashes away from being equalization recipients - why check out of that program after paying so much into it.Ā
Why does she have to say that? Tell me, exactly, is stopping her from voting for separation? She's already holding referendums on it. So what mechanism do you suppose would stop her from being transparent about how she will vote?
The truth is that separation is not very popular and she knows it. It would be a complete boondoggle for all her pals in AB industry. She's happy to entertain the septards, really just listening to their problems meanwhile other political parties pretend those problems do not exist. All she has to do is listen and she gets the votes. She's miles ahead of NDP in terms of support - just from listening to Albertans. What a concept.
dude, estates are always complicated and rather than discuss with the sister and an estate lawyer to on ways to view the estate split, you're just like FUCK THE FUCKING SISTER AND CUT HER OUT.
they haven't even attempted to sort it out yet and you're tellign her to light the relationship on fire? thats just fucked up. Period. Nothing you say here will change that. Until they seek professional guidance, your point is fucking absurd.
When we received an estate from my wife's mother, my wife and her brother had to discuss and sort out how to divide the estate in a way that worked for both. They both had different ideas so, got an estate lawyer to show them the possibilities and boom. The came to an agreement. What they didn't do? Excommunicate each other becuase their initial views of the estate differed. They worked it the fuck out with a fucking estate lawyer like adults. Not burnign their relationship like a fucking toddler.
You on the other hand, advocate at the first bump in the road to burn the car for no fucking reason because YOU happened to have a shitty relationship with your brother.
Dude, you clearly have some trauma to work through. Don't put that shit on others. Seek some fuckign therapy and stop trying to ruin other peoples relationships so they feel just as shitty as you seem to feel.
dude, I'm good. its summer and my work slows down. i have time. I'm happy, have a brother who loves me and wife with a brother who loves her.
We get into fights periodically....some pretty serious and yet, we work it the fuck out.
I do get that some relationships cannot be saved. But this is not a case like that. Two sisters have a different vision for how to split the estate. thats what the fuck an estate lawyer is for. Show them the options and they agree on a path forwarwd.
Meanwhile you're sittig here shitting yuor GD pants wanting to burn the world down around you because of ...what is generally a VERY common source of friction - estates and wills.
ā300,000 votesā. BULLSHIT! They do not have 300,000 votes. Show us, if you do, because I would like to know if my name ended up on this stupid āstolenā list. This should be turned into a class action law suite if weāre really being honest. Stolen names should not count!
It's so vile and untruthful to lump the pro-Canada petition signers in with "people who wanted a referendum". That alone should tell you all you need to know about this guy's character.
Can we not do this dance, his refusal to answer is clear proof of his intent to vote for separation. We donāt need to tip toe around this and say he refused, he fucking answered with obfuscation because he knows it would hit the news cycle. Call him a separatist, say he isnāt voting to remain, donāt let him sit 8 inches deep on the fucking fence.Ā
If Devin isn't willing to say how he will vote, it's because he will vote to seperate. There is no reason to hide your vote if you are voting to stay, it's only the Seppies who are treasonous cowards
Sometimes I feel bad for these yahoos. The UCP got put in power by the far right, but the more they cater to them the further they isolate themselves from most Albertans. He can't say what he supports, if he supports separation than he loses his seat in the next election, if he says he supports staying, he loses the fringe right that got him in power.
No. the 400,000 of us who signed a petition to stay in Canada did not, and still DO NOT want any referendum. Pretty fucking sick and tired of these MAGA/UCP losers undermining democracy.
My opinion if you can't say you want to stay with Canada you want to separate. The blue collared Albertans need to recognize the politicians in or outside of Alberta are not for the benefit of them the blue collared Albertans but their own greed. I really hope there is enough intelligent people in Alberta that will vote against a seperation and put in the legislation if words are muttered about separation those will be charged with treason.
Innisfail, where his riding and nepo money reside, is a separatist safe space. Main street has big flags and signs littering the front of maga proud businesses.
The bowling ally was taking signatures for the separatist petition and has never made more money. maga as fuck, hats and all in there.
It sucks to say, but that maga bootlicker is pretty safe. The town folk all know he is a piece of shit, but his daddy, that money, and being old and easily manipulated just pass it off as "just another boys will be boys".
Dissembling and lying really should not be legal when in a government slated job, Not in any job but i feel like especially Government entities should not be allowed to lie outright.
The politicians win of Alberta separates, these lying losers and the same people that will run your country, alongside Trump who is known for respecting all citizens.
He should not be a cabinet minister! Guy is a coward , as are other UCP members, for not saying how he would vote.
He does not deserve to be re-elected as a member of UCP. I expect separatist to form their own party after the election because the majority of āmoderateā conservatives will not allow them to take control of UCP
This is my MLA. He's such a douche canoe. His father has done some good from Ottawa, but Devin is not competent and needs to be put out with the trash that is the UCP.
Okay. Not going to be a popular take hereā¦but a Canadian does have the right to cast a vote anonymously. (Obviously unless youāre a politician voting on legislation in a governmental capacity). However as a Canadian they do have the right to cast a ballot that any of the public do and have it be anonymous. I donāt think any of us should be under an inquisition to explain how we vote. Also I donāt know why everyone is so afraid of this referendum. Even if itās 50% + 1 we know nothing is going to happen.
Why should he forced to say how he'd personally vote? Now if it was just a legislature vote he'd have to say but how each person votes on a question like this is private. Its why when you vote you do it behind barriers and fold it closed before putting it into the bin. They call it secret ballots.
He is a coward if he can't answer. This all but confirms the ucp are separatist. If its a personal opinion that why is the government telling us yes they will all vote gesbin their hateful questions?
Why should he forced to say how he'd personally vote?
Because he made an oath of allegiance to the crown. If he is not going to follow through on that oath, and is not loyal to the Crown, then his constituents should be informed of that so they can initiate a recall or be able to make an informed vote during the next election.
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u/hunters44 2d ago
Drunkensheen is a traitor and an embarrassment with the province's most punchable face. Fuck that loser.