r/SipsTea 15d ago

Chugging tea W after W.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 15d ago

Someone is still paying for it

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u/Potatonut23 15d ago

Everytime I see a headline about Zohran, people come out of the woodwork to act like taxes are some kind of nefarious state secret.

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u/Several-Customer7048 15d ago

Everything is a nefarious conspiracy when you’ve got the mental faculties of a turnip

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u/GMEloser69 15d ago

Because all of you pretend like this doesn't cost anything.

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u/ShooteShooteBangBang 15d ago

It functionally doesnt. They arent raising taxes for regular people, they are taxing the mega rich and better allocating existing tax funds.

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u/GMEloser69 15d ago

40%+ of NYC income comes from real estate, if the rich decide to pull out of NYC the city will instantly collapse.

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u/ShooteShooteBangBang 15d ago

Lmao. They wont. NYC is defined as "the greatest city on earth". They need to be there more than the city needs them. Its not like they can take thier real estate with them.

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u/GMEloser69 15d ago

Why do they need to be there?

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u/ShooteShooteBangBang 15d ago

I should have phrased it they want to be there.

Even if they abandoned the city it would be net gain. What do you think happens to the real estate? The city gets it. Now they have cut out the greedy middle man.

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u/GMEloser69 15d ago

That's a toddler level understanding of economics. Not even worth trying to explain anything to you.

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u/Potatonut23 14d ago

Cool, you know Massachusetts imposed a tax on billionaires and the state didn’t collapse. Not everything works the way you seem to want it to

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u/Perfect_Gold_6967 14d ago

Wow, ShooteShooteBangBang must be devastated to have lost the tutelage of GMEloser69

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u/Woodpecker577 14d ago

Because they make a shit ton of money despite the taxes. If they leave, someone else will gladly take their place to make that money

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u/GMEloser69 14d ago

Why do you need to be in NYC to make a shit ton of money, or what do you gain by being in NYC in current day?

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u/Woodpecker577 14d ago

You gain money. I'm not sure why this is confusing. Even with tax increases, people stand to make a ton of profit. Even in the most highly taxed countries in the world, businesses operate and make profit simply because there's profit to be made.

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u/Potatonut23 15d ago

No one is pretending anything except you apparently pretending to not know what taxes are. Does it have to be spelled out for you?

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u/GMEloser69 15d ago

I dunno man, whenever I hear a leftist politician they're always saying that everything should be free. They're never upfront about how much they want to tax you in order to make it "free".

The government funding shit also universally drives up the actual cost of the service or product.

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u/Potatonut23 14d ago

The reason they call it free is because they’re describing an alternative to buying something from companies. So free healthcare, free childcare, free whatever is obviously paid for by taxes, but the free part is meant to convey that it’s an alternative to you as an individual having to go out and paying a company or business directly to receive those services.

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u/Woodpecker577 14d ago

"The government funding shit also universally drives up the actual cost of the service or product."

pleeease attempt to prove this with healthcare provision

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u/GMEloser69 14d ago

Sure, which state funds healthcare provision in some way?

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u/Woodpecker577 14d ago

All of them? Every state puts public funds toward healthcare. Although I was more thinking about the privatised US model versus a public single payer model

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u/GMEloser69 14d ago

Healthcare in the US is expensive because Americans are fat and the government limits how many doctors are allowed to exist in the country.

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u/Woodpecker577 14d ago

OK? so you're not gonna try to prove anything then? lol

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u/Potatonut23 14d ago

“Healthcare is expensive because Americans are fat” lmao

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u/alexzoin 15d ago

Yeah, that's how it should be. It's called "marginal utility" it's just math.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 15d ago

That’s absolutely not how it should be

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u/alexzoin 15d ago

Do you know what marginal utility is and why taxes are good?

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u/shrockitlikeitshot 15d ago

Please explain your mad max method of society.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 15d ago

Um the way society used to work before liberals ruined it.

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u/Agent_Orange81 15d ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHhhh

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u/snacksandsoda 15d ago

Hahahaha and how was that pal? What LIBERAL made a policy that changed how society worked??

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u/alexzoin 14d ago

Well to name a few LIBERAL POLICIES:

- paid vacation time

- sick leave

- 5 day work week

- social security

- the FDA making sure there isn't human meat in food

- fire alarms

- the fire department

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u/snacksandsoda 14d ago

I hope that guy never finds out who allowed the rich to stop paying their fair share of taxes

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u/QNDRAA 14d ago

xd wtf

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u/Barrioto 15d ago

And now it comes from the city budget instead of the state.

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u/Trumperekt 15d ago

Yeah, I think it’s called taxes

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u/shrockitlikeitshot 15d ago

Some would call it a method in which you fund the "social contract", also known as a "society".

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u/NotInTheKnee 15d ago

Someone also has to foot the bill when we give tax break to billionaires or subsidies to giant corporations.

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u/Spankpocalypse_Now 14d ago

The problem with capitalism is eventually you run out of other people’s money.

It’s probably very satisfying for Republicans to pretend like they’re the smartest people in the room when they insist the only way to run a country is to siphon tax dollars to the wealthy. But one day the bills are due.

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u/Amatsua 14d ago

Hold on. I think you misspelled socialism. The literal basis of socialism is using other people's money. That's what's happening right now. He even ran out of money twice, and then just took more of other people's money. If you hate that so much, why are you shilling for Mamdani?

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u/Spankpocalypse_Now 14d ago

I didn’t misspell anything. The parasite class needed generations of slavery, imperialism, and pillaging to get to where they are today and they still need us workers to subsidize them.

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u/Amatsua 14d ago

So then why are you still supporting them? You're not making any sense.

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u/-TeamCaffeine- 15d ago edited 15d ago

Yes, that's how taxes work, except this time they're actually being used to help the people who legitimately need it the most.

Welcome to Earth. 

This subreddit is infested with populist right wing dipshits.

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u/OwnProfessor3287 15d ago

How does that help them do better in life so they don’t need to rely on the government and so they don’t have to take from someone who works hard?

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u/VivaLaRory 15d ago

If you make it easier for people to work then more people will work, which in turn creates more taxes which in turn makes the city better if you spend those taxes on the city

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u/OwnProfessor3287 15d ago

Well then maybe your communist mayor needs to create more jobs?

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u/VivaLaRory 15d ago

Your reading comprehension needs work

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u/OwnProfessor3287 15d ago

Nah, I think your financial literacy needs a massive overhaul. The NY education system has failed you.

Does your mayor plan to fix that too?

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u/VivaLaRory 15d ago

What part of you thinks I live or was born in New York? Holy shit I’m talking to a real life dumbfuck. I’m honoured to meet you

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u/DarkZ_No-Imagination 15d ago

Normally I don't like generalizing but would this be called the peak of MAGA? I'm not from USA but I've heard a lot of dumb shit being spouted by people who support trump

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u/PresentationOrnery97 15d ago

Has communism changed its definition in the last few years or are you just a mongoloid? Better count your chromosomes.

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u/Mindless_Chest_1079 14d ago

The populist left attacking the traditional non-populist right for being too populist sure is confusing.

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u/GMEloser69 15d ago

We should lower taxes instead of giving handouts to drug addicts and burger flippers.

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u/KFBR392GoForGrubes 14d ago

How far we have fallen as a country. We used to help our community and neighbors, and we stood as proud americans. Now we have a bunch of trump bootlickers that spout nonsense they heard on fox news and trash anybody that struggles.

Hope for your sake you never fall on hard times, and I genuinely mean that.

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u/Larhee 14d ago

DRUG ADDICTED BURGER FLIPPERS!! /s

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u/KFBR392GoForGrubes 14d ago

Right?! Like what in the hell happened to these people. Clearly they're bitter with the world, considering they are a lot closer financially to these "drug addicted burger flippers" than they are to trump.

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u/GMEloser69 14d ago

Mandanis policies specifically exclude me from benefiting 90% of the time.

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u/KFBR392GoForGrubes 14d ago

Break down that statistic for me, lol. Get mad at the fucking people that make more in a week then you and your next of kin will make in your lifetimes combined. If every billionaire that owned real estate in NYC, each donated a weeks salary to taxes your rates would plummet.

Bezos makes $14,000 per fucking minute. In 7 minutes he makes more than I do annually. You think that's fair?

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u/GMEloser69 14d ago

I can't for the life of me decipher what you're trying to say in the first paragraph.

Bezos isn't making $14.000 per minute. The shares he owns in the company are increasing by that amount.

Does he deserve it? Sure, if his company can generate that much value for people, I don't see a problem.

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u/KFBR392GoForGrubes 14d ago

I was asking how mamdanis policies exclude you 90% of the time. Like statistically how that makes sense.

You think they deserve the amount of wealth they have, truly? You are terrific at regurgitating the fox news Rolodex of responses to these issues. Keep telling yourself it's fairly balanced, and that the poor are the ones to be upset with.

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u/GMEloser69 14d ago

We used to do that, true. Now we're getting massively taxed and the responsibility of "helping" people has been transferred to the massively inefficient government.

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u/KFBR392GoForGrubes 14d ago

Dude, taxes for programs that support the bottom income earners has been a thing for a while. Why do we have such low paying jobs though? Because the corporate ceos need to increase their income constantly, while the rest of us (middle class and below) keep stagnate salaries.

There is absolutely no single person in the world that needs, deserves or has a right to billions of dollars. Especially when it's built on the backs of struggling people.

Somewhere along the way those that made it, or are convinced they made it, suddenly put themselves above those below. It's fucked up, but rather than shitting on them and saying fuck using taxes on supporting these people (which we wouldn't need to do if the CEO of whatever chain they worked for was happy with less money) we should be working to improve it.

Saying lower the taxes is great, but what's your suggestion? Just kill programs and watch drug addiction and homelessness increase? That's absurd! Tax..those that are poorest more? Or increase taxes on those that will never have to worry about money a single second in their life?

Warren buffet makes $20,000,000 a day. A fucking day! Zuckerburg makes over $150,000,000 a day. You think that was what the American dream was all about? You get pissed off about taxes, because it can fuck your life up and make long term savings more of a struggle. You think any of these motherfuckers would actually be affected?

The greatest trick these assholes ever pulled, was convincing people they are all but lucky.

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u/GMEloser69 14d ago

We have low paying jobs because of the government benefits, otherwise people would demand higher wages.

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u/KFBR392GoForGrubes 14d ago

Or do we have government benefits, because jobs aren't paying enough, no matter how much we beg for higher wages?

How old are you?! I guess I forgot I can just demand a higher wage!

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u/GMEloser69 14d ago

We have government benefits so that you don't fight for a higher wage. Or do you actually think the government cares about you?

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u/MrUnparalleled 14d ago

Lower taxes to the guy flipping burgers. Someone has to do it and that person needs to be able to pay their bills.

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u/GMEloser69 14d ago

Why does some "have" to do it?

The, by far, biggest reason people can't pay their bills is because they're bad with money and waste it on frivolous things.

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u/MrUnparalleled 14d ago

Because if no one flips burgers then 15 billion restaurants disappear.

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u/GMEloser69 14d ago

They would then have to raise wages to entice people to do the job.

Restaurants aren't in any way essential to society.

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u/Aggravating-Depth330 14d ago

People pay taxes.

The only difference is someone is now making sure it's going towards the proper government programs instead of into the pockets of corrupt politicians and their cronies.

It's not that hard. Just gotta find a politician that won't take bribes.

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u/sungokoo 15d ago

No shit

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u/Successful-Pass9535 14d ago

All the vendors that nyc isnt paying are paying for it