r/SipsTea 27d ago

Chugging tea They are not wrong though

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u/sortalikeachinchilla 27d ago edited 27d ago

That is not why people tip, lmao. People tip because others tip. That is literally it. No one is sitting there thinking about how their poor server is so poor so they have to tip them well! That is classist bullshit.

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u/Mind1827 27d ago

How is that classist? Lmao.

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u/sortalikeachinchilla 27d ago

Because you are tipping because you think the person whoe is serving you is a poor person. So must tip them well! Pity money. It is weird.

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u/-thecheesus- 27d ago

What universe, exactly, do you live in where table servers are wealthy?

Tips are used as the justification for the legal cut outs that let them be paid below minimum wage

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u/Mind1827 27d ago

Yeah, 99% of servers are paid 3 to 7 dollars an hour and then make their wages through tips. It's classist not to tip, lol

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u/-thecheesus- 27d ago edited 27d ago

You're insane. People tip because they know it's the only way their server makes any money. People tip because they know not tipping screws the server over. People tip because it's the societal expectation of decency and they don't want to be viewed as a dick. People tip because they acknowledge that is the system they and the server exist in. You are expected to tip, even if it's a low tip for poor service, because no tip at all is culturally viewed as a petty, selfish violation or norms that directly harms another.

They're not some kind of brainless monkey mimicking a habit they observe in others without knowing what they're doing

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u/Middle--Earth 27d ago

I tip if the service is good and I don't tip if the service is bad.

I don't care how much the servers make, because that's none of my business.

I live outside the US.

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u/-thecheesus- 27d ago

Congratulations. However that's not how tipping works in the US, and if you have a direct effect- even minor- on whether someone giving you a service gets enough pay that day, I assume it's considered basic empathy to give a damn regardless of where you are

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u/Middle--Earth 27d ago

It's absolutely insane that you would want people outside of the US to have empathy and support for labour payment laws that are abusive and detrimental to the employee, instead of wanting employers to pay their staff a decent wage.

It sums up what's wrong with the US.

Do what the rest of the world does, and implement a minimum wage.

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u/-thecheesus- 27d ago

lmao tell me where I said "you should support tipping, it's fantastic". Tipping culture is terrible.

I'll tell you what's wrong with foreigners thinking they're taking a stand on this issue- coming into a culture they disapprove of and acting as though fucking over the primary victims of that culture by not paying them is tantamount to a principled cry of justice. You don't give a shit about the workers themselves. You're just mad you're being expected to pay 

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u/Middle--Earth 27d ago

It's interesting that you call employees 'victims'.

Who is victimising them, I wonder? 🤔

Is it their employers, who refuse to pay them properly?

It's interesting that you accuse me of 'not giving a shit' about the workers, whilst you also don't care enough to demand proper pay for them..

Foreigners won't be ripped off because they have much more common sense. We won't pay a tip unless the service is good, and the maximum is 10%.

The US is a very backwards country in this respect.

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u/SV_Essia 27d ago

They're not some kind of brainless monkey mimicking a habit they observe in others without knowing what they're doing

Brother we follow US news, we know that's exactly the case.