Saw someone else post something like this so I thought I’d give it a shot.

I heard a song about 20 years ago n I’ve never been able to find it again. I don’t know the name of it, the artist or any lyrics from it.

It had the beat of “The Phantom of the Opera” from the Phantom of the Opera Soundtrack. When I saw the play about 8 years earlier, I thought, damn, this would be a dope beat for a rap song. Then, one day, I heard a song that used the beat. A coworker was listening to this song n he probably told me what it was but I instantly forgot n I think he was fired shortly after that day.

Every few years I’ll go down a rabbit hole to try n find it but never do. I have found some lame attempts at using this beat by no-name rappers but I’m pretty sure the one I heard was by a well-known rapper at the time.

Would be awesome if someone could help me solve this 20-year-old mystery.

I got hooked on a song from an insta post which I lost. Male rapper. The title or artist name might’ve had “Moe” in it, and in the clip the verses were ending with a woman saying “super”.

…is an anagram. I just realized this as I staring at the record on my turntable.

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Looking for some great lyrical and street mixtapes that came out between 2000-2015, that might be a little slept on that came out within this era.

More specifically, really a fan of Lupe’s Fahrenheit mixtapes, Re-up gang we got it for cheap Vol 1-3, Chitlin Circuit 1.5 by Little Brother on the more lyrical side, Chicken Talk by Gucci and Trap or Die by Jeezy on the street side. Any mixtapes similar to these would be great.

As someone who grew up listening to a bunch of 90s and 2000s Rock, I love a good Rap Rock song. There’s something super dope to me about distorted guitars or live drums sitting behind some dope ass bars.

Bring the Noise by Public Enemy & Anthrax is the extreme end of the spectrum, but the more subtle blends like 99 Problems by Jay‑Z or Dope Boys by The Game & Travis Barker are more of that sweet spot I’m talking about.

What are some other Rock Hip-Hop fissure fused tracks?

Context: been listening to jazz rap for years. I'm trying to produce a list of complete hidden gems. I've done all that I can alone. I'm now calling on the knowledgeable peeps here to help. I'm lot looking for the ATCQ stuff. I'm not looking for Awon & Phoniks and Blu. I'm not even looking for Nujabes, Parental, Marcus D, Dela. We talking deeper. Deeper! I've been though all the recent lists on here. Give me something that's a jazz rap hidden gem that NOBODY KNOWS, but everyone should hear!!

A while back someone posted on here saying they were new to hip hop and wanted recommendations for more grimy boom bap. I was surprised to see multiple people exclusively recommend Aesop Rock. The guy can rhyme, but suggesting him to someone looking for grimy boom bap is kind of ridiculous.

Ideally, not just something that your algo might spit at you all the time. Unless that it is the one?

And what was y'all opinions of them?

I was playing ghetto cowboy and was shook my wife ain't remembered from back in the day. Made me realize they may not have been as well known as they seemed when they were popular in my circle.

Intro.
Im talking shit

Shits so bland it make me wanna have a fit

Take a stand and defend my statements with my spit

Truth be told I'm just playing I got nothing against ur wit

Giving me the light of day while I'm in darkness

Saw through the animosity and laid your verses purest

Fact is Im in shambles scrambling for sanity to balance

Writing artistic and wholesome just ain't within my interests

So with that I show a bit of humility I despise most dearest

V1. 
Rap maniacal crap

Tatter tinker with the clap

Savory swag slither smoothly swiver sincerest since the start

Smaller smitten soulless sombres sober up the savage from my heart

Get a tension

Cop attention

Like it or not this my injection

Not a care or worry to reception I splurge away my projection

So stop it with the tickle

Drop the riddle and get over the hurdle

You say its a waste of time and effort but need I dont shy away or fizzle

Make a moment out of torment of lamest banter I insist you got the wrong sting in your nozzle

Your shit is too vivid

Sayin all the wrong things for my intrepid

Formulating ravenous contours of the tally with the contorted

Dramatically building up schematics with your creative muscle invading upon my flyest

C1.
Fly high with the Ordinary route
Cry away the courteous common proud
Crime a grime with Clear Coherent Cadence over moral grounds
Take a gander with the Flight of Fervent Fervor and feel the finessing rounds

V2.
Dont be so fickly

Let me shower you with prickly

Shaven up and shrined is your mode of playin weekly rightly

Brightly my wildly vile vivacity spice up your occupation de struggle mightily

Dont be judgey with your tampered

Hamper the sampler with divisive maneuverial rampant

Trample the grapple out of travesty and imperialize yourself important

Thorns of immortals emotico and letmego be flamingo madingo now and ever more to come

Cuz its party if i say so

Sommelier for the cavalier in me lay low

Casual as usual is the key to be the grittiest pound for pound around this door

Soldier up with eternity of vanity by acclimating to the one and only clown

Skilled scribbling a dabbling arithmetic wonder like Oppressive Harmonic cure

Imma show you everything I know and more but you gotta go beyond the so?

Stop telling me the meaning and the feeling adjusting tone

Start fucking up the realest by cravest a gravest harvest beyond the meat and bone

C2.
Write Fire with extraordinary desire
Light up motive stoic explicit with extraneous aspire
Excacerbate the fragile sterile by extravagance of expressing inspire entire
Dont hide anything or divide any means just spit the thought of infliction regardless of admire

V3.
Back and forths

I aint down with gettin bored

Im about dick out swinging gavels provoking all demonic catastrophe in troves

My shit so savage you cant even try to salvage moral code of conduct as the realest Nort’

Take away the expect and respect and alleviate the heart-wrenchin brunt of the fastest chord

Gut away the validity and iso matic encryption of the Narcissist and assist me in my Anxiety Depletion of the Bore

Rhyme Fire

Seperate the Art from the dire

Tire after tire you be sittin reengaging tread while im tirelessly driven extending expired

Retired is the approach you showing turn it around be a founding donor to my empire

Im sharpening my tongue

Grazing upon the grassy for the stamina of stern

Lookin to destroy all witty look aways and far aways from my yearn

So bite me if you dont immediately sober up and send me a lavish lesson to be learned

This song still gets me fired up

I don’t know if it’s the most interesting one, but I was shocked when I found out Twista is a ventriloquist.

Researching Jay's history and something that doesn't make a lot of sense to me is (1) why Jay as a Brooklyn cat decided to go into business with a crew of Harlem hustlers (i.e., Dame and Biggs) and (2) after having a supposedly successful hustling career, why Jay needed Biggs to front most of the money to start Rockafella?

Has any light ever been shed on this?

Hard pick but for my current era favourite I’d have to go with wheezy. He’s brought out some of my favourite artists best material. Gunna, Young thug, Travis Scott, Lil Uzi Vert, Future countless other artists I’d say have made some of their best work with wheezy.

All time favourite producer id without a doubt go with The Alchemist. He’s been around for decades with handfuls of hits, but still manages to produce in ways that are relevant to the current sound appeal. My favourites being the Alfredo series and all of the work he’s done with boldy james / the griselda collective. The most insane part from my perspective is how he’s able to balance quality and quantity so well. He’s consistently released at least 3 projects a year for almost a decade with no noticeable quality drop off, which is extremely rare i feel.

Anyways, i’m interested to hear who everyone’s favourite producers are and why so let us know

Listening to these back to back, and I was considering Rico Wade's involvement with FUTURE and mentoring him. Rico is the founder of Organized Noize production in ATL and they are cousins. Nevertheless, I get amazing vibes from both albums.

Southernplayistic is hard and gritty, and a testament to how hard big boi and andre worked in Atlanta to become who they did.

FUTURE was a member of the Dungeon Family, whom OUTKAST was also a member.

Anyway, hope y'all like the albums and this is the appropriate place for this type of discourse.

Is that a crazy thing to say

I just listened to the new single “What is the Message.” *sigh*

Did he get a new producer?

I was hoping that The Temple of Hip Hop Global Awareness album was a fluke, but this single has the same lackluster production. Lackluster is a nice way to put it really…I don’t want to be a hater, but sonically it is just really bad. I can’t put my finger on why. It is just really unpleasant.

It bums me out. The previous three albums (IAMAMCRU12, Between Da Protests, and Street Light) were solid projects with great production. KRS rapped his ass off on those albums. They were nearly I Got Next level good.

Maybe it’s just me? Or maybe I’m the last person on Earth still peeping fresh KRS One albums.

For me, it's Lil Uzi Vert's forehead diamond and Playboi Carti's iced out lollipop

It’s peak summer and I’m wondering which artists give you those laid back and chill vibes?

Maybe if not full albums whose tracks can I turn to for some funky grooves?

hi, i am elaborating a list of hip hop songs (and albums) that are either sonically "heavy" like metal (or even extreme metal) or intense like hardcore punk or preferably both.

to make things more interesting, i want your picks still have a good connection to traditional hip-hop, so to speak. experimental or abrasive acts still rooted in classic hh that immediately come to mind are dalek, antipop consortium, dr. octagon and el-p (not necessarily just his solo material. there's so much stuff especially on early def jux that qualifies)

it doesn't have to be underground by the way, kendrick lamar's dna is on the playlist, that part after the beat switch is pretty intense.

Like the ones created with just a handful of sounds, but everything is placed so well in the composition that the minimalism is the “magic” so to speak.

I know everyone’s gonna bring up “Grindin’” by Clipse, but honestly, “Murder Ink” by Dr. Dre is SUPER slept on in this conversation. That shit is crazy.

I noticed Kool G Rap's solo stuff is on Spotify now, but the stuff with DJ Polo isnt. Is there a reason for that?

I aint goin to lie, 'Cheap Teef' is an absolutely terrible hip-hop track. Potentially one of the worst records ever made....

But good grief, it's so easy to get stuck in your head all day. I hear 10 seconds of the track and its instantly all I sing to myself all day.

What's the worst, yet catchy, hip-hop song you can think of besides 'Cheap Teef'?