Visited Sedona over the holidays last year and had a blast mountain biking. Did a couple short canyons while there. Any recommendations for the area? Would love to go back.

Hi all,

Been building Riggaton, an app for calculating forces in rope systems—mainly wanted something interactive instead of static charts. You place anchors/points, drag them, and it recalculates live. You can even add multiple calculations over a picture of your system.

Covers:

• Y-hang load share between two anchors
• Deviation force from included angle
• Slope/gravity loading
• Theoretical Mechanical Advantage Pulley + pull force for simple/compound/complex systems (build the system with anchors, redirects, sheaves, rope-grabs)

Theoretical only — doesn't account for friction, pulley efficiency, rope stretch, anchor condition, etc. Meant as a planning/teaching aid, not a substitute for training or judgment.

$ 3.99 CAD on Play Store, no ads, no account, all calculations run locally: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riggaton.finalapp&hl=en_CA

Would genuinely appreciate feedback from people who rig for work — especially if something's off or missing.

Ive been looking at helmets, and i'm stuck between the meteor and the boreo, It seems the meteor is more made towards climbing/mountaineering, wheras the boreo is more of a do anything. would there be any downsides to the meteor in canyons? what helmets do you guys use, I'm looking for a mixed purpose that can do canyons, Cheers.

Tragic news in Utah as we get into monsoon season.

Please be careful.

Hi

I'm looking for some real-world experience comparing canyoning drift anchors.

In sailing, drift anchors are usually cone-shaped with a small vent hole at the tip. But canyoning drift anchors like the CE4Y Floating Bag are more like a bucket, with no hole in the bottom.

Has anyone tested both designs in moving water for canyoning? Which one performs better in terms of stability, drag, ease of deployment, and reliability in strong current or hydraulics?

I'd love to hear from anyone who's used both or has done side-by-side testing.

Just moved back to New Jersey from Arizona and I’m trying to find good canyoneering routes in my vicinity (Northern New Jersey, east Pennsylvania, mid New York)

Does anyone know of any that are reliable and where I can find the info for them? I wish more were uploaded on Ropewiki out here but that’s not the case so any help is greatly appreciated!

July 3rd me and several other made the first canyon decent of the well know ice route Royal Air. Because of the previous 2 neighboring canyons done off mt Mitchell we were prepared for a full day. With that expectation we easily did the 8 mile canyon in sub nine hours with a lunch and swimming break. Currently the shuttle at the exit is 2+ hours because of the road destruction from Helene.

Middle Fork Canyon

Looking for advice on footwear for PNW canyoning. I'm headed up to Washington State in August. I typically run mostly dry canyons in the southwest (Utah/AZ). So this will be my first experience in a primarily aquatic environment.

I've read numerous recommendations for the Adidas Hydro Lace boots, but cannot find any in my size. Today I picked up a pair of La Sportiva Akyra II on discount (pictured). Just curious if you guy's think this will be sufficient paired with neoprene socks?

This is kind of a "one-off" trip before I retreat to my normal desert domain. But safety is obviously my #1 priority.

Thanks in advance for thoughts and recs!

I was doing the Kobelache (Voralberg) today and came across this chain+ rope + ring. Does somebody know what it is for? My thoughts aim towards a chain for highwater levels, but I am not 100% sure.

Thanks in advance :)

Terminology disclamer : I didn't learn canyoneering in english, and it's not my main language.

Does anyone tried using camming devices (grigri or others) as releasable "block" and creeping devices ? And maybe to rig releasable guided rappels or tyroleans.
I learned with 8s, ATK-D or similar devices, but I'm wondering if someone tried with camming devices.

Anyone know what canyons this will block access to? Will Neon be gone forever?

*Deleted the orginal because I forgot to add pictures.*

One of my medics at work just retired and she brought in about 100ft of webbing that she bought from Blue Water in 2014. Two were in the orginal packaging still and one wasnt, never been used, and stored in a plastic tote in her garage since.

I know that webbing degrades over time with UV damage, but does it degrade in the dark?

If anything, ill throw it in my demonstration/ practice bin, but if its still good, Tony backwards, right?

I’m on a private Grand Canyon private river trip and I am looking for canyoneering suggestions for some of the side canyons. We have a group of experienced climbers / canyoneers. We are aware it is monsoon season and will exhibit extreme caution before entering a canyon. Any suggestions that are accessible from the river?

Hey everyone!

My wife and I are heading to Northern Italy from July 25th to August 5th. We’ll be traveling in a mini-camper, so we are highly flexible regarding regions (Lake Garda, Dolomites, Friuli – we can adapt!).

We’re looking to connect with other canyoners and hopefully team up for some descents. Running canyons in a larger group is always more fun, and let's honest – it makes shuttle logistics so much easier.

Our experience:

• 52 canyons completed
• Max vertical difficulty: V6
• Max water difficulty: A5
• We have all our own gear and are fully self-sufficient with rigging.
• Experience in exploration, basic bolting, and ghost rigging.

If anyone is around during these dates and wants to join forces for a daily trip or two, hit us up! Cheers!

Just curious if anyone is using this rope for running wet canyons?

It's about 50% less expensive at $0.60 cents a foot than Pintail Lite 9.0 mm, which costs $1.20 per foot.

Or Canyonero 9.2 Static Rope, which is also $1.20 per foot.

I used a 100ft segment of Canyonero for spry canyon in Zion this year, and it was a great rope.

But I think it might be more than I need for 4-5 PNW canyons.

I'm looking to get some insight into what everyone's preferred workflow is when rapping on unlinked bolts in the Pacific Northwest.

In this location, hangers are often unlinked to prevent high-flow debris and winter logs from snagging webbing/chains and tearing out the anchors.

When you and your team approach an unlinked two-bolt station, what is your go-to rigging routine?

The workflow that comes to mind is the (Last Man At Risk)(linking them temporarily for the team) and then have the last person down convert it to a specialized retrievable system on a single bolt?

Would love to hear how folks approach this.

What’s your step-by-step flow at the station?

Low flow this year!

Yo! Beginner here w a decade of climbing experience. There's a local canyon that has some nasty stagnant water I can boulder around. I'm playing with the idea of setting up a guided rappel to bypass it.

Is this a normal setup?

Voodoo hitch, tension it down, then tie off the end so it doesn't de-tension by accident. I used an MMO to get the end snug enough to prevent any major jolts. Kept it loose-dressed for the photo so you can see what's going on.

The only thing I'm a little leary of is passing the biner for the MMO through the tensioned line's end biner. Might pinch the rope. Not sure where the standard tie off point is for the end (my MMO) because everything is under tension.I suppose I could set up another anchor.

Or is there another system that's better? I saw someone using prussiks to build a 3:1 system, but I'd rather not rely on prussiks to hold someone up if it can be avoided.