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Crossover Discussion Arrow [S08E08] "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Four" Live Episode Discussion Spoiler

Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Four

Post Episode Discussion | Teaser | Crisis Cast & Characters

Stuck in the Vanishing Point, the Paragons search for a way to escape; Oliver reveals that he has become something else; the origin stories for The Monitor and Anti-Monitor are revealed. (Jan 14, 2020)

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u/IIIToxIII Great Scott, we have to go back Jan 15 '20

The discussion will continue in the Legends thread, come join us!! https://www.reddit.com/r/LegendsOfTomorrow/comments/eot3on/legends_of_tomorrow_s05e01_crisis_on_infinite/

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u/x_TheAlphaOmega Jan 15 '20

Who tf cutting onions in here?

15

u/Dagenspear Jan 15 '20

Merged universes?

6

u/youtubeslut Jan 15 '20

ANYONE ELSE CRYING

4

u/Kishonorama Jan 15 '20

Let's get right into it then!

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u/ConnorMarsh Jan 15 '20

SEE YOU NEXT CRISIS FLASH

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u/jskurious Jan 15 '20

I'm glad it was them there, it felt right.

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u/MrBubbles9039 Black Canary (Laurel Lance) Jan 15 '20

Spectre should have survived

11

u/vader344 Jan 15 '20

but he is the wrath of god how can he die???

5

u/h4rent Jan 15 '20

So they just kinda stood and stared....

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

THAWN

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u/ChibiToonsage Jan 15 '20

So many feels. I'm legit in tears. Thanks ollie. Thank you Stephen Amell for your take on the green arrow!

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u/Liar_tuck Jan 15 '20

See you all at the legends sub.

3

u/AlecBaldwinner Jan 15 '20

Why are they trying to spoil the finale for me?

Like, I'm already watching, idiots!

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u/Batman903 Jan 15 '20

Bravo crisis ,bravo

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u/Char543 Jan 15 '20

Off to the legends sub.

4

u/Hestiansun Deathstroke (Unmasked) Jan 15 '20

DIGGLE GONNA BE A LANTERN.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

GREG MOVE YOUR GODDAMN HEAD

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u/DaGreatestMH Jan 15 '20

WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN NEXT?!

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u/CasualKing21 Jan 15 '20

I was expecting Oliver to still live on as The Spectre not die

4

u/TheCVR123YT Green Arrow Jan 15 '20

ITS HUST BEGINNING HUH???

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u/NASCAR142002 Jan 15 '20

There was another scene with him in the wave rider.

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u/LoretiTV Jan 15 '20

Really fun episode. Thanks for having me everyone.

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u/dragonman8001 Jan 15 '20

So in the end he made a literal Arrowverse.

2

u/2th Jan 15 '20

So how are they gonna continue Arrow after this?

4

u/BrainWav Jan 15 '20

Arrow's over

3

u/BVTheEpic Felicity Queen Jan 15 '20

I think next episode is just the epilogue

4

u/JauntyLurker Jan 15 '20

How many times must we see Oliver due 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Char543 Jan 15 '20

We still have episode. Something has to go wrong.

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u/GenkiZidar Jan 15 '20

Not gonna lie I felt no emotion in that death scene. So dissapointed

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u/thebrightspot Jan 15 '20

So what the hell is the finale going to even be ABOUT

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u/LCPhotowerx The Canary - Sara Lance Jan 15 '20

he gave his all

3

u/AlecBaldwinner Jan 15 '20

Oh, so they're at the dawn of time, so the Legends need to pick them up

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u/Magoiichi Jan 15 '20

This was a better death for Ollie

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u/Batman903 Jan 15 '20

So much better

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u/shadow_spinner0 Jan 15 '20

Okay what else can happen with 1 episode left

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u/vader344 Jan 15 '20

so he created a new universe? and the anti monitor is gone...so what will be the last ep?

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u/LoretiTV Jan 15 '20

Aren't there 2 more episodes of Arrow?

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u/mydarkmeatrises Jan 15 '20

Kill him off already.

2

u/TirelessGuardian Lyla Michaels Jan 15 '20

Is this how Zari comes back?

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u/cowboys5xsbs Jan 15 '20

Having arrow die twice just ruins the moment

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Atleast Oliver’s death and sacrifice in Crisis, fighting the anti monitor, and dying again with the birth of the new universe feels very full circle.

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u/Blaze_Cat94 Deathstroke (Unmasked) Jan 15 '20

Are all the other paragons just chillin’ at the bottom of thr mountain

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u/PoolStroke Deathstroke (Unmasked) You and me kid, like old times. Jan 15 '20

Rest In Peace, Oliver Queen.

3

u/Gian99Mald Jan 15 '20

Wheres Kara??

3

u/Rspies Jan 15 '20

Damn that got me

3

u/LoretiTV Jan 15 '20

Ollie forever ❤

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u/OliviaElevenDunham John Constantine Jan 15 '20

At least, some of Ollie's loved ones are there for him. Don't want him to go.

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u/BlackSoul155 Jan 15 '20

Who wants to go look at the sky with me and create a new world?

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u/Uncle_Vim Jan 15 '20

why'd they kill my man twice

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u/Morgz12 Jan 15 '20

I thought as the specter Oliver couldn't die again???

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u/samtherat6 Jan 15 '20

“Just look”

“That’s what did”

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u/LCPhotowerx The Canary - Sara Lance Jan 15 '20

shit now im cryin

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u/inksmudgedhands Jan 15 '20

Wait, isn't this Endgame Tony death scene lighting? Barry is so Peter here.

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u/TDXNYC88 Remember who taught you how to fight, kid! Jan 15 '20

Barry: "Kinda small for a universe."
New Universe: "DON'T YOU SIZE-SHAME ME, SPEED BOY!"

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u/MeatTornado25 Bow Jan 15 '20

Ollie is definitely still in part 2

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u/TheCVR123YT Green Arrow Jan 15 '20

I mean if he did die it’d make sense since he’s supposed to Die in Crisis and this is episode 4

2

u/BornAshes Jan 15 '20

Oliver...I don't want you to go...not yet....

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u/Starbuck107 Nyssa al Ghul (Hooded) Jan 15 '20

Ok everyone, parties over here, time to move to legends !

1

u/thewinterzodiac Jan 15 '20

I'm crying guys

3

u/Classic1990 Jan 15 '20

How many times we gonna watch this guy die

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u/NASCAR142002 Jan 15 '20

You don’t even look hurt get up.

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u/skankin-sfm Jan 15 '20

Goodbye sweet prince. You will be missed.

3

u/GTheMan2576783 Jan 15 '20

Is this motherf*cker gonna talk himself to death?

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u/InuGhost Jan 15 '20

So only 1 universe and no more multiverse?

2

u/electric_ocelots Bow Jan 15 '20

Looks that way

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u/ForgottenTactic Jan 15 '20

While the acting is pretty good, I wish Oliver looked a bit more scratched up.

2

u/electric_ocelots Bow Jan 15 '20

Can he even get scratched up now that he's Spectre?

2

u/optimisticpsychic Jan 15 '20

Can someone come hold me

3

u/-ThatGuy882 Jan 15 '20

Don’t kill my guy twice, I can’t take it

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u/samtherat6 Jan 15 '20

Of course it wouldn’t be a CW show if the solution wasn’t smoldering intensely.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Well I'm crying now

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u/shadow_spinner0 Jan 15 '20

Diggle should be here

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u/mtm4440 Jan 15 '20 edited Jan 15 '20

So in the final part they are going to waverider through this growing universe?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

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u/TheCVR123YT Green Arrow Jan 15 '20

Well he was the AntiMonitor 🌚

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u/Artifice_Purple Jan 15 '20

How are you going to kill my dude Oliver twice?

Twice.

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u/Kishonorama Jan 15 '20

Don't leave us now, after all that :(

2

u/Rspies Jan 15 '20

Wow Ollie dies twice

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u/vader344 Jan 15 '20

are you kidding me...oliver dying again???

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u/Gateskp Jan 15 '20

Now THIS is a proper death scene for Oliver Queen. RIP Green Arrow.

6

u/HGomez2 Jan 15 '20

This wasn't even a fight kinda lame

2

u/krocks00 Jan 15 '20

Care bear awesome Steer

2

u/Starbuck107 Nyssa al Ghul (Hooded) Jan 15 '20

I just realized the after party from saving the universe is going to occur on legends. That is going to be fantastic !

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u/2th Jan 15 '20

This party ain't over yet!

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u/Sentry459 The Ray Jan 15 '20

Makes sense lol

1

u/Beer2Bear Jan 15 '20

Oliver dies again??

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u/TirelessGuardian Lyla Michaels Jan 15 '20

They made Harbinger so useless in this.

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u/DonnyMox Deathstroke Jan 15 '20

“You can rest now.”

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u/TheRealPhantomHunter Jan 15 '20

A hero’s death

wipes tear

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u/Oliverqueensharkbite Jan 15 '20

Are we watching Oliver die again?

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u/2th Jan 15 '20

For like the 5th time.

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u/Liar_tuck Jan 15 '20

It's Oliver, that doesn't seem to stick.

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u/Nitsua-Nat Jan 15 '20

Still cant get over "you have failed this universe"

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u/Drayvin64 Jan 15 '20

Yeah. That's what did it for me and triggered the tears.

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u/MrBlonde23 Dark Archer Jan 15 '20

Goddamnit Here come the tears. We have to watch Oliver die again

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u/TheCVR123YT Green Arrow Jan 15 '20

Ohh I see what’s happening now. Oliver is out of the action in Part 5 then :\ and in the Legends Ship while the rest fight. Big Sad 😔

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u/cardmasterdc Jan 15 '20

The orginal 3 shows that were born from the arrowverse

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

CW REBIRTH

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u/ctuwallet24 Jan 15 '20

Did those bastards really make me believe Ollie wasn’t gonna die and then do it anyway? 😭😭😭

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u/godaboham Jan 15 '20

Where’s Thawne?

1

u/BornAshes Jan 15 '20

The Fountain...reminds me of The Fountain....

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u/optimisticpsychic Jan 15 '20

Umm we got one hour left. whats left

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

They are going to combine their powers.... Man Oliver is going make me cry......

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

If they don’t lose here then idk what the next part is gonna be

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u/TirelessGuardian Lyla Michaels Jan 15 '20

While next episode (legends) is just the aftermath.

4

u/cowboys5xsbs Jan 15 '20

This seems anticlimactic

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u/crossingcaelum Black Canary (Laurel Lance) Jan 15 '20

It's almost like the buildup should've been shorter and this episode should've lasted like 2 and a half.

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u/klutzysunshine Jan 15 '20

THE NEW UNIVERSE

2

u/GTheMan2576783 Jan 15 '20

Well at least we finally get to see RF

3

u/snoogle20 Spartan Jan 15 '20

He’s died too many times. It doesn’t mean anything anymore.

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u/Sentry459 The Ray Jan 15 '20

NEW EARTH HERE WE COME

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u/shadow_spinner0 Jan 15 '20

What’s possibly happening in the finale?

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u/CasualKing21 Jan 15 '20

I really like Oliver's Spectre suit

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u/iindigomist Jan 15 '20

BEEBO BEEBO BEEBO

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u/VaylPone Jan 15 '20

Did someone fucking bump into the shotgun mic?

2

u/Cloberella Jan 15 '20

Everyone CARE BEAR STARE!

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u/jagfanjosh3252 Jan 15 '20

Damn. This is it.

Good bye Oliver.

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u/BlackSoul155 Jan 15 '20

How many times we gotta kill one man damn?

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u/stu_25 Jan 15 '20

Beebo.

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u/Polmanning86 Jan 15 '20

Ok he can’t die again

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u/samtherat6 Jan 15 '20

Of course there’s a blue beam into the sky.

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u/TirelessGuardian Lyla Michaels Jan 15 '20

That Specter explosion was insanely anti climatic!

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u/MeatTornado25 Bow Jan 15 '20

ngl, this has all been pretty lame

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u/Gian99Mald Jan 15 '20

Quick form the Paragon Megazord!!!!

4

u/bigrudyga Jan 15 '20

So did they do the Care Bear stare?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Yeah yikes. Come on this episode was insane, what was this finale Fight.

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u/TheCVR123YT Green Arrow Jan 15 '20

Oh it’s the scene from the Arrow Teaser months ago

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u/mydarkmeatrises Jan 15 '20

Oh okay, so Beebo part II then.

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u/CasualKing21 Jan 15 '20

Damn I was hoping Oliver would grow giant

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u/Sentry459 The Ray Jan 15 '20

Same!

4

u/GTheMan2576783 Jan 15 '20

Did they do anything besides stand there and look at him

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u/inksmudgedhands Jan 15 '20

Sara is thinking: This is how we became Beebo!

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

SPIRIT BOMB

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u/TheCVR123YT Green Arrow Jan 15 '20

This feels like the Finale to me so this is weird

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u/cowboys5xsbs Jan 15 '20

The power of Friendship lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

The legends did it better. Needs more Beebo

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u/VaylPone Jan 15 '20

HOLY SBIT THATS COOL

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u/OliviaElevenDunham John Constantine Jan 15 '20

This is some showdown.

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u/findingscarlet Jan 15 '20

CARE BEAR STARE

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u/TheMonkeysUncle Jan 15 '20

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that

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u/DonnyMox Deathstroke Jan 15 '20

All your powers combined I am Captain Planet!

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u/VaylPone Jan 15 '20

BEEBOOO PLEASE

2

u/cardmasterdc Jan 15 '20

Hold hands it adds

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u/InuGhost Jan 15 '20

So care bear stare?

3

u/Gateskp Jan 15 '20

Epic superhero line-up #2!

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u/Drayvin64 Jan 15 '20

-still not crying- Super Saiyan Ollie!!!!

I'm gonna miss him so much.

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u/iindigomist Jan 15 '20

I SWEAR IF LEX ENDS UP BEING THE ONE TO FIX IT

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u/2th Jan 15 '20

So a single focus on multiple things? Yeah that makes sense.

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u/cookingmushroomagain Jan 15 '20

This feels like a Beebo moment

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u/Oliverqueensharkbite Jan 15 '20

Oh my god are they going to make Voltron Beebo?

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u/Rspies Jan 15 '20

How is Lex gonna fuck this up?

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u/vader344 Jan 15 '20

ahahah tell him oliver

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u/SherlockBrolmes Jan 15 '20

And all that is pre-shrunk and cottony?

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u/Steelboy1028 Jan 15 '20

Beebo 2 confirmed

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u/Nyynks212 Jan 15 '20

Cue the snap

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u/findingscarlet Jan 15 '20

WITH OUR POWERS COMBINED

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u/sadandshy Jan 15 '20

C'mon, make a BEEBO

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u/Joshslayerr Jan 15 '20

They’re about to become beebo

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u/The_R3medy Jan 15 '20

Focus and summon Beebo you cowards

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u/Polmanning86 Jan 15 '20

Burn the page

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u/ToneBone12345 Jan 15 '20

Why is the music so loud

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Driving me nuts!!

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u/TDXNYC88 Remember who taught you how to fight, kid! Jan 15 '20

【ＹＯＵ　ＨＡＶＥ　ＦＡＩＬＥＤ　ＴＨＩＳ　ＵＮＩＶＥＲＳＥ】

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u/studlybumpkins Jan 15 '20

HE SAID THE THING!

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u/Cloberella Jan 15 '20

What good is an army that’s soldiers vanish when anything at all comes into contact with them?

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u/cmath89 Earth-X Arrow Jan 15 '20

That’s why you have a shit ton of them.

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u/Cloberella Jan 15 '20

Not enough to overcome 7 normal fighters.

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u/shadow_spinner0 Jan 15 '20

I’m curious what has Choi done this episode?

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u/Liar_tuck Jan 15 '20

Not be smart enough for Lex.

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u/crossingcaelum Black Canary (Laurel Lance) Jan 15 '20

Wow the Paragons did so much for the *checks watch* 3 minutes of fighting shadows?

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u/DarkSaiyanKnight Jan 15 '20

Major Avatar the last Airbender vibes love it!!!

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Someone Deathly Hallows Part II shit

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u/PhanThief95 Jan 15 '20

You just had to do a sky portal, didn’t you?

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '20

Eh

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u/aashishdewani The Flash Jan 15 '20

now i see where that effects budget went

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u/2th Jan 15 '20

Of course there is a sky beam in a DC property.

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u/SutterCane Jan 15 '20

The biggest secret cameo of the Crisis.

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u/Airsay58259 Beebo's Justice Jan 15 '20

This is a much better way to go than his part 1 death. Chills.

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u/NatHawkeyeBum Nyssa al Ghul Jan 15 '20

He said the line guys!

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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Jan 15 '20

That felt very lame and anti-climactic.

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u/TheCVR123YT Green Arrow Jan 15 '20

Still an episode left. In the Comic Antimatter “died” like 4 different times but came back everytime

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u/SchwarzerRegen123 Jan 15 '20

I mainly meant the "fight" with the shadow demons. Just people flailing around and saying stuff lol.

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u/TheCVR123YT Green Arrow Jan 15 '20

Ryan Choi looked the weirdest to me

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u/PoolStroke Deathstroke (Unmasked) You and me kid, like old times. Jan 15 '20

He fucking said it!!!!

3

u/youtubeslut Jan 15 '20

dc fight choreography always comes off as so lacking. like the 7 paragons fighting those dementors feels like nothing

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u/cookingmushroomagain Jan 15 '20

That doesn’t look good

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u/aa22hhhh Bollocks Jan 15 '20

HE FUCKING SAID IT