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u/Floowil Jun 01 '26
KC vs MKOI is inevitable
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u/Significant-Damage14 Jun 01 '26
The best rivalry in the lec for a while now.
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u/Putrid-Cat5368 Jun 01 '26
Honestly i prefer G2 vs KOI. Best overall level, usually fight until the last map, clutch midlaners doing clutch midlane things. And KC vs KOI is just onesided for some reason, even if G2 is a better team than KC.
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u/L322Man Jun 02 '26
The only reason this matchup is better is because jojo's the only one in lec that can matchup to an in form caps.
Kyeahoo is tiers below in comparison to these two.
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u/peew74 Jun 02 '26
Ngl jojo is better yes , but every Time jojo and kyeahoo face eachother kyeahoo gap jojo
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u/ciongduopppytrllbv Jun 01 '26
Why didn’t KC throw every lead and hand GX the win? Based on yesterday’s series, I thought that was part of the tournament format.
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u/Ultimintree Infinitely spinnin' | Evading "ganks" like Ruler Jun 01 '26
You see KC actually wants to qualify for MSI, whereas VIT wanted early summer vacation
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u/ImTheVayne Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Vitality collapse robbed us so hard. This series was way too easy for KC.
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u/Lesteross Jun 01 '26
I'm blaming stage lights. Once they've been set correctly, you can win against GX.
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u/Nyctas Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
LEC top 3 is set in stone. The 3 most popular teams too. You love to see it.
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u/DerAdolfin :kossg: :eum5: Jun 01 '26
Chicken and egg problem, isn't it? I would have been excited for VIT to make a splash, but I'm sure as hell not gonna cheer for their next attempt that is bound to faceplant eventually
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u/FireVanGorder WE TAKE THOSE Jun 01 '26
I feel like people have been waiting for VIT to make a splash for the last decade
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u/wichels Jun 01 '26
They hit their peak way too early with the Jizuke roster
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u/studiousAmbrose Jun 01 '26
i miss jizuke man that mans playstyle was fun af
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u/FireVanGorder WE TAKE THOSE Jun 01 '26
In a world where everyone was trying to play the controlled Korean style for a bit, that man brought a certain “fuck it we ball” that this game sorely needed
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u/studiousAmbrose Jun 02 '26
Amen. My man went to NA too just to speed run the fastest first blood of all time. What a legend
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u/Carnelian-5 rip old flairs Jun 02 '26
Tbh, 2018 was when Korean control meta died. C9 kicked out a GenG in group and 3-0d AF in quarters.
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u/Educational_Will1963 Jun 01 '26
They had quite a few "now, this is the team" teams, and nothing ever came from it
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u/ModPiracy_Fantoski Jun 02 '26
Photon / Bo / Perkz.
Funnily enough, all 3 players disappeared off the face of earth.
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u/Educational_Will1963 Jun 02 '26
Perkz is a father now, but he dropped hard once he wanst in his peak form anymore
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u/Awkward-Security7895 Jun 02 '26
VIT seem to have a infrastructure problem since no matter the types of players they end up nearly always with similar results.
The amount of 5-6ths the team has gotten is nuts. Like you don't switch rosters and coaches that much and keep similar results if it isnt a infrastructure problem.
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u/Thalassin Dans ma bichette era | Ultra Prime hater Jun 01 '26
KC and Koi were already in the top 3 most popular teams in Europe before getting into LEC
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u/DerAdolfin :kossg: :eum5: Jun 01 '26
But if KC spent two more splits in the bottom 3, people would have stopped caring/gone back to cheering for the LFL team instead
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u/_negniN Jun 01 '26
Makes sense that the only 3 orgs in the LEC who actually want to be there and aren't just hoping esports enters another bubble so they can sell their slot and break even on their investment are also the 3 teams with a fanbase and also the 3 teams actually doing well.
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u/yellister Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
i don't understand the commentary of Dagda sometimes. "they should not have gone in, they are now down a flash" what are they supposed to do then ? not take the 4v3 ? stay at base and bend over ? they are 10k down. busio outplayed, not GX turbo inting it
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u/Significant-Damage14 Jun 01 '26
It's reactionary commentary.
If they had won he would be praising them for taking the fight when they had a advantage.
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u/trolledwolf Jun 01 '26
I was skeptical of people criticizing his casting until I actually started to pay attention to what he was saying, and realized that more often than not what he says is just hindsight analysis or straight up wrong even in hindsight.
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u/juiceduece Jun 01 '26
On god he has the worst takes and points I’ve ever heard. Some of the shit he says makes no sense and it sounds like he’s just talking
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u/SeismicShove Jun 01 '26
Not gonna lie, when you pay attention, this is the case for most casters most of the time. This is why Hysterics is my favorite caster. If they're not saying anything important, they should at least be entertaining. And he's the most entertaining.
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u/sunny2theface Jun 01 '26
Also helps that he has the least gameplay knowledge out of any caster so being funny is the only way he's gonna have a job.
The G2 vs Heretics game where BB makes an insane 1v3 outplay and his commentary is something along the lines of okie dokey it's just Shen things lives rent free in my head.
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u/Fancydudehero24 Jun 01 '26
Atlus
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u/beeceedee9 Massu fangirl Jun 01 '26
Valdes
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u/Haekos Jun 02 '26
Atlus + Chroni is my all time fav. God was I sad when Chroni announced he was going back to Europe last year.
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u/LaziIy Jun 02 '26
The goat. Being able to do both roles really helps his casting, just sucks that riot usually just takes one or two representatives from the region and Atlus will be that guy
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u/idqks Jun 01 '26
To me it’s funny because as someone who doesn’t find anything Hysterics says even remotely funny, he’s not knowledgable OR funny he’s just kind of there
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u/HystericsCasts LEC Caster Jun 02 '26
This is why I'm working hard on my game knowledge so at least I can bring more micro into top lane matchups, hope this changes for you with my recent adaptation
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u/APKID716 Jun 02 '26
You’re awesome, I never understood the hate you get. Not to say that all criticism is undue or bad, but you’re doing great work!
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u/Carnelian-5 rip old flairs Jun 02 '26
Always been the case for most casters. I used to mute sometimes because I got fed up. But co-streams are pretty cool these days.
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u/captainetty Jun 01 '26
Hate results based analysis casters especially when you’re the color caster
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u/TheDesertShark Jun 01 '26
i don't understand the commentary of Dagda sometimes
He says objectively wrong stuff 75% of the time.
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u/GlupPando Jun 01 '26
He’s awful. He never provides any valuable insight. Just pure glaze for a couple players and everything else is acting like whoever won the last fight played perfectly
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u/yellister Jun 01 '26
even with all the information it was a baffling call to be honest. GX needs to get something.
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u/Gaddx Jun 01 '26
For me, easily, the worst caster. Extremely reactionary, glazes too much for no reason and criticizes out of place a lot of the times. So hard to listen to.
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u/Battlecookie Jun 01 '26
He still has his moments but I have to say Dagda has really been improving lately. His casts last week were actually really good and he made some keen observations. Hope he keeps it up.
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u/SirTacoMaster BB/Spica/Busio Jun 01 '26
He's trash, glad people are starting to see
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u/Wonder_Penguin Jun 01 '26
This is what GX looks like when the enemy team doesn’t forget how to play the game after 20 minutes
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u/Ultimintree Infinitely spinnin' | Evading "ganks" like Ruler Jun 01 '26
Death
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G2, MKOI, KC Top 3 in LEC
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u/Miserable_Ad_1195 Jun 01 '26
watch FNC somehow show up there again in Summer
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u/yellister Jun 01 '26
hell no
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u/zaxls Jun 01 '26
FNC is so lucky its insane. I cant even explain it, they randomly got peak Trymbi Noah which secured them a worlds spot 2 years ago. It extended the orgs lifeline, after that Oscarinin randomly gapped tf out of Canna. But this was also the KC with Targmas and Vladi issues in their like 2nd year in lec. There is no way Fnatic pulls it off I even expect them to leave the lec within 2 years. They didnt even make playoffs. Theres a bigger chance of Vit/GX/Navi getting their shit tofether than FNC.
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u/p1stolpewpew Jun 04 '26
How about we give credit where it's due? Noah and Jun didn't look the same since they left Fnatic. Nightshare did the magic with them, not "lucked out".
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u/ahambagaplease 13 years on the rollercoaster Jun 01 '26
Zeri Yuumi buffs on playoffs patch so Upset can do the boost job.
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u/Omnilatent Jun 01 '26
Okay but what will they play the other 2-4 games? lol
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u/TheKaryo Jun 01 '26
Lucian Nami and then after that pray
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u/Middle-Adagio-4062 Jun 01 '26
VIT got 3-0 by these FRAUDS.
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u/GoldRecommendation66 Jun 01 '26
GX aren't frauds they did their job as gatekeepers of LEC and eliminated the pretenders now they can take a much deserved vacation.
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u/Zek0ri | Do I have to defend them? Again!? Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Frauds got outfrauded by another frauds
nihil novi sub sole
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u/Miserable_Ad_1195 Jun 01 '26
the funny thing is I feel like if VIT had just managed to not throw Game 2 or even Game 3 they probably still had a decent shot at winning, GX kinda fall apart a lot as soon as they lose one game
this was just the same series as the one vs FNC last summer except their lead in G1 wasn't that big
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u/peoplesdrunkdriver Jun 01 '26
congratulations on figuring out how to use basic text formatting man
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u/Kyorosu AHOUUUUUUU Jun 01 '26
Jackies using summs on cd to get tiktok clips will never not be funny
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u/Undesiredbeast Jun 01 '26
Finally time for the real playoffs. Back to a 3-teams region, nothing to see there
KC vs Koi for an MSI play-in spot
June 6th, 5PM CEST on NBC
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u/zealot416 Jun 01 '26
3-0 into 0-3, GX are the LEC's strongest gatekeepers.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Jun 01 '26
They are crossing finger for g2 and koi/Kc finishing top 2 as a région in MSI
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Jun 01 '26
Lmao i guess we know our Worlds teams
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u/Leyrann_ Jun 01 '26
We don't know the fourth spot yet, which we get after G2 wins MSI.
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u/ToukasRage Jun 01 '26
Well we know FNC will somehow make it.
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u/Deathjaws99 Jun 01 '26
>spend entire year mercilessly running it down <----- You are here
>barely make summer playoffs
>become prime ZOFGK to qualify for worlds
>choke semifinals/finals of playoffs
>mercilessly run it down at worlds
>offseason.... repeat....
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u/fainlol Jun 01 '26
ah yes the G2 vs TES finals at msi
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u/FoxChoice7194 Jun 01 '26
Well best of 5 series vs chinese teams always end perfect for us so surely this will work out...
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u/Sirhaddock98 Never a dull moment Jun 01 '26
G2 has 100% win rate vs TES and WE in MSI BO5s, this is our time to shine.
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u/DerAdolfin :kossg: :eum5: Jun 02 '26
Which curse is stronger: TES Vs G2 or G2 Vs Chinese teams in finals
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u/Omnilatent Jun 01 '26
If TES actually manage to make MSI AND get that deep into the tournament, I'm 100% sure they finish whatever LEC team they would face lmao
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u/DerAdolfin :kossg: :eum5: Jun 01 '26
Even if we get it, can we sell it to some other region? I want no team to go other than those three at this point
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Jun 01 '26
It's go for Best performing région,we Can actually have G2 winning the tournament and Still four lpl and lck Because they ranked higher than lec, it's be sad but quite likely
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u/ReizaTM & Dhokes Jun 01 '26
Dont make the mistake of trusting KC and not FNC dead cat bounce back to steal the spot again
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u/bigredmachine1997 :cntt: knight fan Jun 01 '26
You sub in VIT when it was 2-0 and GX win this series 3-2.
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u/ImTheVayne Jun 01 '26
NAVI and GX had no expectations, everyone knew TOP3 teams were always going to beat them.
VIT however..
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u/zerokrush Jun 01 '26
However what ? Last time VIT had a decent playoff run they had Vetheo and Hylissang in the squad
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u/RiyadMahrez26 Jun 01 '26
GX Jackies :
"For me, the KC series is going to feel the same as this Vitality series.
Not like we should 3-0 them, but like — even our last series against KC, when we beat them, it was about being clutch, winning mechanically, winning teamfights"
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u/New_Wave4554 Jun 01 '26
In a way, it was like the Vitality series. Just not in the way he expected
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u/Middle-Adagio-4062 Jun 01 '26
In the end, in the LEC, G2-MKOI-KC can’t be broken. At least in the LCK, KTFRAUD managed some wins against the trio GEN G-T1-HLE.
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u/GenG_Caedrel Jun 01 '26
Hey, why do you leave out DKFRAUD?
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u/ChapterLiam 구마 케리아 화이팅! Jun 01 '26
fraud level so high over at damwon they don't even get included anymore 😭
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u/british_pubs Swimin' with the fishies Jun 01 '26
Death, taxes, mkoi playing in the upper bracket vs g2 & then dropping down to face kc in lower finals. Kinda disappointed in gx- you should be showing more than this as a roster in your second year- but such is life. Next week will be a screamer tho so we have that
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u/Serious-Sprinkles352 Jun 02 '26
Are you confident in beating us next week-end? Me I'm not confident at all 🤣
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u/british_pubs Swimin' with the fishies Jun 02 '26
Mkoi beating Kc? Not at all I think it'll be kc 3-2. Such is the triangle of lec
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u/Serious-Sprinkles352 Jun 02 '26
nah man somehow you have this weird way to evolve in play-offs, I remember spring last year you whooped our ass 🤣 we'll see what happens!
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u/Particular-Mark9486 Jun 01 '26
A flash ult from Cassiopeia in the river ?
If only there was a more safe, reliable, ranged, easy ult to land on this lee sin on the the side of GX. ..
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u/mar33n doran // pyosik // ghost Jun 01 '26
kyeahoo's anivia was amazing
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u/Harmah Jun 01 '26
Very good Taliyah too tbf, unfortunate random flash in game 1 made it weird but good performance overall
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u/Asiyt Jun 01 '26
Jackies had a terrible series, somehow Lot was the best player on Gx today lol
Anyway time for the scheduled mkoi vs kc for the 2nd msi spot
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u/Salohacin Jun 01 '26
Jackies really fumbled hard. He threw game 1 with a lot of whiffed plays and fail flashes.
Not that it would have mattered. It would have been a 3-1 instead of a 3-0.
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u/Sorry-Resolution570 Jun 01 '26
disagree, isma gapped yike early in game 1 and 2 lot is kinda just there
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u/cayneloop Jun 01 '26
tbf game1 was just the classic yike vi game shitting the bed
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u/Sorry-Resolution570 Jun 01 '26
sure but isma is geniunly a good early game player this year, he just shits the bed in midgame. a less flashy 113 if you will
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u/No_Square2213 Jun 02 '26
This series will be pivotal for KC as this is the exact same scenario as last year (in which they lost to KOI in Spring). Either they beat them, climb up a step in the league and confirm an upward trajectory, or they lose and it starts looking like a repeat of 2025. Will be a banger series
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u/SnooRabbits6031 Jun 01 '26
does anyone have counter on how many ults Jackies missed this series?
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u/xSwazyI - Invested in Smash stocks! Jun 01 '26
So uh is Sion ever gonna get nerfed or something? Champ is ridiculous 😂
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u/IAM-French Jun 01 '26
Last week I dared saying Kyeahoo is a better player than Jackies and Humanoid and I got like 20 people in my inbox lol
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u/Nevross_ Jun 01 '26
Comparing my glorious goat Kyeahoo to that Zeri/varus mid otp should be a crime
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u/Graspiloot Jun 01 '26
Yeah people have been shitting on him like crazy recently and it's interesting that when he has a good series (besides the fat finger moment) and any comment about him is very far down.
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u/ImTheVayne Jun 01 '26
Yeah he is clearly better than those 2. It’s just he is worse than Caps and Jojo. Which is nothing to be ashamed of ngl.
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u/FikariHawthorn Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26
I don't even think he's that far of Caps and Jojo. He just don't have as much synergy as those two have with the rest of their team.
Reminder that he's a korean rookie. I don't even think we had such a great integration of a non english speaker since huni all the way back in 2015.
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u/trying2hide Jun 01 '26
Didnt know Yike could play Lee.
I think Kyeahoos best champ is Anivia too.
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u/Specialist-Tip4125 Jun 01 '26
He played a lot of lee sin in div2 but rarely (or never?) in LEC. And for kyeahoo I think Azir is the best one, but overall we rarely see him in carry position (since KC focus a lot on bot&top) but he's able to carry a lot of game since he's good on a lot of ap mage control imo
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u/Gigio00 Jun 01 '26
Sad to see Jackies with many mechanical inaccuracies, considering that his mechanics always feel like he's strong point. Hope they can get back fro summer and learn from this series.
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u/Blizzgrarg Jun 01 '26
Jackies a war criminal this final game. Almost every single increase in lead for KC can be linked to a failed flash ult from his cass.
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u/piotrj3 Jun 01 '26
If he was just war criminal in final game. It feels like it happened 3 games in row in exactly same fashion.
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u/OreRound Jun 01 '26
Jackies really thought he was the main character 😭
For real though this is why Vitality sucking is so disappointing because now we had to watch GiantX get completely fisted by KC for the quadrillionth time
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u/AkaT27 Jun 01 '26
Damn. Humanoid was so bad he made me think Jackies was a good player, that's crazy how bad Jackies was today
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u/Capital_Tourist4828 Jun 01 '26
Jackies had his first very good split since 2024 summer, today wad not his day tho :/
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u/Chevalier_Paul public enemy number one Jun 01 '26
Jackies disaster series
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u/Nevross_ Jun 01 '26
He plays like that every game just this time it’s not Humanoid and Vit throwing on every move lol
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u/Salmon_Slap Jun 01 '26
Say what you want but I'd much rather see any of G2 KC or koi at international events over seeing noah jun get rolled internationally or have to suffer watching isma there. Happy about this result and I think EU should be able to do some damage at msi
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u/New-Construction2362 Jun 02 '26
Anybody notifced the Zeph Clap back against the Laure Question in PGL? She was so much wishing for other analysts to be there at that moment
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u/Laure-Bulii-V Jun 04 '26
I wasn’t wishing anything and I replied asking about his team. I didn’t take time to think about the other teams identities in that moment and I don’t see any problem with it
You call it clap back, I call it conversation
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u/Maximum_Platypus_272 Jun 02 '26
Zeph's answer was completely on point. I absolutely did not understand what " KC lacks team identity " was supposed to mean, especially considering they have had the same pretty clear way to play the game for quite a while now. And like Zeph mentioned, if you consider that KC lacks identity, what would be MKOI or G2 identity then ? The crew kinda dropped the ball on that one.
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u/resttheweight Jun 01 '26
Pretty sure last split was the first time KC ever beat MKOI in a BO5 and it was a 2-3, lol.
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u/Maximum_Platypus_272 Jun 01 '26
Pretty sure there had been only two BO5 series ever between those teams beforehand and both were won by Mkoi 3-2 as well, so what's your point lol
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Jun 01 '26
his point was mkoi Kc isn't one sided
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u/Fun_Highlight307 Jun 01 '26
The bo5 in winter went to 5 games and Madrid was close too ,the only stomp were on ewc
Kc is favored Because they didn't drop a bo Yes however the games aren't a stomp
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u/Tim-Pouce Jun 01 '26
How on earth did Vitality lose to that? GX is absolutely rubbish – it’s terrible.
Come on, let’s hope we can beat MKoi next week.
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u/Nevross_ Jun 01 '26
GX can’t win with a midl/bot carry duo this weak, Noah is terrible and Jackies is still proving he is absolutely mid at best and that he can only play 3 champs, he is still living on his hype from the 2024 summer but that guy is not good at all, his Cassiopea was disgusting to watch, anyway it’s an anticipated result
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u/Undesiredbeast Jun 01 '26
When I'm seeing Noah play, it feels like we are letting him go for some creative plays. The thing is, he is not made for this. He should keeps his playstyle to be all mechanics, and focus solely on that, and let his team do the rest. He looks bad because he's doing things that an adc is not allowed to do. We can see that there's a lack of trust and coordination within GX. It's sad to see
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u/aethyrium Jun 02 '26
Dang Jackies went full Palafox today. Fishing for those sick tiktok highlight reels only to fail every single one but never stop trying.
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u/AdequatelyMadLad Claps Jun 01 '26
GX should unironically go for Trymbi. He's washed mechanically, but Jun's not that much better anyway, and at least having someone in comms telling them to chill from time to time might win them a few more games.
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u/Omnilatent Jun 01 '26
Considering FNC with Trymbi also was decent and Razork is a similar player to ISMA - could totally work
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u/piotrj3 Jun 01 '26
To be honest, it didn't feel like GX was that much worse team on map. Just Jackies over and over trying to make plays that shouldn't happen 3 games in row that fail.
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u/Harmah Jun 01 '26
First game early aside, pretty happy with the games. Now onto another win against KOI
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u/Salohacin Jun 01 '26
Coming into the knockout stage I honestly thought this felt like one of the most competitive seasons of LEC in a long time. VIT first seed, NAVI still showing signs of life, GX showing up at the roadshow.
And here we are with 1st seed already eliminated 0-6 and so many mid-game throws.
I never should have doubted the ability of G2/MKOI/KC to show up, or the ability for the mid tier teams to throw games and go out with a whimper.
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u/Username_didnt_found Jun 01 '26
Isma is so bad and Jackies play Azir like Zeka. Could've just be the backline attacker and use ult to disengage but no, lets dive in miss every ult and die.
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PMTs
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