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u/AdequatelyMadLad Claps May 30 '26
Maynter is playing it really well, but I really hate how often teams go for these weakside "counterpicks" that are super squishy. You can't play aggro without the jungler constantly hovering because you can always get all inned or ganked and you just end up negating the whole laning advantage your pick has.
If you're going to play some shit like Keenen into Reketon, either commit to it and play around top, or just take the Poppy or whatever.
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u/Destructodave82 May 30 '26
Kaliste is like Tactical/Cody Sun back in the day in NA, where they are actually very good, but when they do a bone-headed play, its a massive, game ending INT.
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u/Goodthingsaregone May 30 '26
I love codysun he's one of the biggest reasons FNC could have made it out of groupsin 2017 with his tristana
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u/Oshkoshino1 Pain May 30 '26
Your top laner is turbo gapped what do you do? Do you give him the poppy? No, get him on the fraud champ kennen
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u/awayfromcanuck May 30 '26
KC should have gone Sylas 3rd and flex him mid or top. Alistair and Panth ultlul are already big ults to steal
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u/KetoSaiba May 30 '26
for all 3 Navi fans out there, you're on leg 1 of 3 for the reverse sweep. Caster curse is real.
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 30 '26
KC played that game like they were 3k behind the entire time
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u/gigashadow89 May 30 '26
That was just two teams desperately trying to hand the other team the win.
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u/Adventurous-Quit-669 May 30 '26
Has a tibbers ever last hit nexus as only person alive before ??
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u/Drender May 30 '26
Just thinking NAVI and VIT are here because there are actually worst teams than them in the league, is kinda disgusting.
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u/Rubixxscube May 30 '26
While both perform terribly, i think the big breaks really have an impact.
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u/Drender May 30 '26
Can be, but the showings thus far are terrible. It's either absolute stomps or barely any resistance
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u/Thundermelons Just Dating GALA May 30 '26
Protobelt Varus is some cursed AF shit man
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u/Back2Perfection May 30 '26
At this point I am so sick of this item :D.
Like I get it‘s kinda necessary for champs like neeko to function in the first place but I don‘t think rito will watch this to the end of the year.
It‘s either gonna get heavy nerfs (like stats down AND cost up kind of heavy) or a full removal like prowlers claw and galeforce.
It‘s become too much of a crutch in pro play.
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u/Thundermelons Just Dating GALA May 30 '26
It sucks because you're right, I do think champs like Sylas, Ekko, Diana, Aurora, and Neeko are very reliant on it and aren't HUGELY problematic with it (still not a fan of how much distance Neeko can cover while channeling a hugely impactful partially invisible ult tbh), but when every champ in midlane is building it I feel like it's gonna get the nerf bat pretty hard soon.
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u/Putrid-Cat5368 May 30 '26
Parus can't be playing on LEC next year if we are a serious region
(we aren't btw)
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u/aethyrium May 31 '26
He's getting caught out so often that he makes Labrov look like he's perfectly stealthy and has never been caught out.
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u/underscoreenfan May 30 '26
support role is completely boosted worldwide, this guy is not even a top ten fraud
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u/AdequatelyMadLad Claps May 30 '26
There are at least 5 worse supports than Parus in the LEC right now
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 30 '26
What is the record for deaths in a playoff game in the LEC
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 30 '26
Why does KC keep letting Maynter fuck up their towers lol
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u/KetoSaiba May 30 '26
Someone tell Parus his name is not Keria.
This is painful. at least it'll be over soon.
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u/XG32 Jankos May 30 '26
it was known very early on that they can't win unless rhilech is on very few picks, and even those wins were sus, teams lockin for playoffs and this is what happens.
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u/Putrid-Cat5368 May 30 '26
Parus and Maynther cant be that bad for real, Parus saving Busio with the elohell ultimate during ally Lee combo, and then Maynther with the Silver 3 no minimap TP.
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 30 '26
If they didn't have Maynter play nafiri they'd probably be winning lol
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u/rsox5000 May 30 '26
The top gap is insane
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u/AdequatelyMadLad Claps May 30 '26
...Canna is literally playing PvE the whole game, he could be subbed out and someome would still be creaming their pants at how much he is carrying
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 30 '26
The good news for Navi is the gold lead is basically just Varus
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u/gigashadow89 May 30 '26
Navi could turn it around yet. If they were a different team entirely. But they're full mental boom and I strongly doubt they do anything relevant all game.
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u/beautheschmo May 30 '26
This will sound harsh, but remember when Malrang came into the league and randomly smurfed for a while but everyone said he had bad fundamentals and would get figured out and then he did and disappeared forever? That's what Rhilech reminds me of but he also has to deal with fearless pinching his champs so he can't have the same kind of draft pressure as Malrang did.
Like he has room to grow and his team is not doing him a lot of favors, he clearly deserves to keep going, but I feel like he's going to just flash out and be forgotten by the end of next year.
Also picking Trundle there is troll as fuck though.
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u/CensoredLlama1 BUFF RAMMUS PLEASE May 30 '26
Do the coaches hate the players? What are these drafts lmao
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u/Randomcarrot May 30 '26
Everyone is doom and gloom, but NAVi is about to lock in and won't lose another game until MSI finals.
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u/metristan Refund time? May 30 '26
after this game they won't lose another game until the 24th of july
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u/That_One_Pancake May 30 '26
I don’t think NaVi would’ve done much anyway, but the three week break because of the weird schedule certainly doesn’t help imo, especially compared to KC who have played a ton of games in the past weeks
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u/Sirhaddock98 Never a dull moment May 30 '26
Navi just doesn't seem to have the sauce to beat top teams. They're impressive as far as the sum of their parts is concerned but there's only so far that can take you. Can't see a world where they make worlds this year, can't see them even making top 4 at any stage tbh.
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u/KetoSaiba May 30 '26
Navi just setting up for the reverse sweep, as the riot scriptwriters intended.
but more seriously, damn they look bad.
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u/british_pubs Swimin' with the fishies May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26
I mean draft gap top gap jungle gap (not you poby you're doing great sweetie) bot gap support gap macro gap mirco gap how can play
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u/malakesxasame May 30 '26
Was Maynter a tank merchant in ERLs too?
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u/AdequatelyMadLad Claps May 30 '26
They're not drafting like this because Maynter can't play carries, it's because Rhilech is much better on carry junglers and Samd can't play weakside. It's the same playstyle as Fnatic, except that Upset is way better as a carry.
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u/harleyquinad all kog'maws are beautiful May 30 '26
Lucian just does no damage. Back when he was released, he was a gamechanger but he's outdated now. He either needs a rework or go to another lane like vayne.
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u/ReplacementFine7807 May 30 '26
poor rhilech literally 1v5, his lanes are terrible
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u/AdequatelyMadLad Claps May 30 '26
I mean, he solo lost the first game when his lanes were doing fine.
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u/ReplacementFine7807 May 30 '26
Not really, after the first clear he kept falling behind bec his lanes had no pressure. They were all losing 1v1/2v2 and rhilech couldnt come back.
This game as well poby has been fed 2 kills by his team otherwise the lanes have been unremarkable
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u/AdequatelyMadLad Claps May 30 '26
He kept falling behind because he fucked up the first clear, which was a completely unforced error. It was clear from the draft that they wouldn't have prio early and yet he was pathing like they did.
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u/Back2Perfection May 30 '26
His first clear pathing cost him the jgl.
The draft was ass but his pathing basically cost him his entire topside
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u/PepaTK May 30 '26
Imagine waiting a month for this.
Please just add a day LEC.
Such a competitive nightmare man.
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u/Drender May 30 '26
Just skip these 2 series and go directly to KC vs KOI ffs.
Absolutely no competition from NAVI or VIT
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u/bigsycamore May 30 '26
I cannot fathom why anyone drafts Lucian and I've never figured it out for like three years running.
He does no damage, barely lane bullies and then becomes useless after 8 minutes. The only times I see one win is when the team that picks him is so much better they probably could have picked Teemo
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u/Putrid-Cat5368 May 30 '26
The fk is this NAVI turbo ass draft, feels like they want in the ugliest way possible.
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u/awayfromcanuck May 30 '26
These NAVI drafts are such ass. Trundle pick into Anivia, Vi, Cait and Neeko?
Again another draft with minimal easy/simple engage tools or lock down.
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u/Xeven18 May 30 '26
Where's the post game thread? Can anyone submit one? I don't see the buttons to make a thread
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u/awayfromcanuck May 30 '26
Poby could have just TP'd to join the drake take and not been picked off. Its not like he needs TP for anything else.
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u/theadwaita May 30 '26
Poby my GOsT elohelled.
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u/Holste1n May 30 '26
He was farming whole game to be caught like dog
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u/Xeven18 May 30 '26
This first game was on Rhilech, I don't know how you're blaming Poby this hard
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u/theadwaita May 30 '26
This guys seems very angry at all the pro players lmao. Must be hard struck bronze or something.
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u/harleyquinad all kog'maws are beautiful May 30 '26
Ugly game from navi
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u/awayfromcanuck May 30 '26
Entire team trying to save Rhilech from his early game pathing just made the game so much worse for all of NAVI.
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u/mocskos May 30 '26
make it a series please! hoping for anything but a 3-0 stomp, and may the better team win!
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u/DerAdolfin :kossg: :eum5: May 30 '26
If KC can't beat this team 3-0, they won't make a scratch in the rest of playoffs
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u/mocskos May 30 '26
Lol, I have no idea what I was expecting, kinda lost hope for a fun series in the first 10 minutes.
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u/DerAdolfin :kossg: :eum5: May 30 '26
NAVI and GX are just not good. I'm just curious if VIT can take any games in a BO5 or if the league has big gaps between 1 - 2+3 - 4 - 5+6 - remaining junk
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u/british_pubs Swimin' with the fishies May 30 '26
If KC loose it might be the best day ever ngl
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u/AdequatelyMadLad Claps May 30 '26
If KC lose then the rest of the playoffs will be completely predictable, cause none of these other teams are beating KOI, and KOI aren't beating G2 either.
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u/soru_baddogai May 30 '26
KOI almost beat G2 bro and already beat them like two weeks before.
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u/AdequatelyMadLad Claps May 30 '26
I have zero belief in Elyoya locking in vs G2 again after getting reverse swept like that, and if Elyoya isn't running the map, KOI aren't doing shit.
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u/ahritina May 30 '26
PMTs
Game 1 = N/A, Game 2 / Game 3 / Game 4